TOENI, Roger de IV b. 1160 Flamstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England d. 9 Jan 1209 Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England

1160 - 1209 (49 years)

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Name	TOENI, Roger de
Suffix	IV
Birth	1160	Flamstead Castle, Hertfordshire, England
Gender	Male
Burial	Jan 1209	Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England
Death	9 Jan 1209	Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England
WAC	30 Nov 1934	SLAKE
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Father	TOENI, Sir Ralph de V , b. 1130, Conches-en-Ouche, Eure, Upper Normandy, France Conches-en-Ouche, Eure, Upper Normandy, Franced. 1162, Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England (Age 32 years)
Mother	DE BEAUMONT, Lady Margaret , b. 1125, Leicester, Leicestershire, England Leicester, Leicestershire, Englandd. Aft 1185, Leicester, Leicestershire, England (Age > 61 years)
Marriage	Aft 1154	Leicester, Leicestershire, England [1, 2]
Notes	MARRIAGE: Also shown as Married Aft 1155 ~SEALING_SPOUSE: Also shown as SealSp 10 Apr 1995, SLAKE.
Family ID	F15865	Group Sheet \| Family Chart

Family	DE BEAUMONT, Constance , b. Abt 1160, Maine-De-Boixe, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France Maine-De-Boixe, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, Franced. 1225, Flamsted, Hertfordshire, England (Age 65 years)
Marriage	Abt 1185
Family ID	F15866	Group Sheet \| Family Chart
Last Modified	24 Jan 2022

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(Family) de Toeni of Normandy and Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England
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Hugh de Cavalcamp [a] b abt 890, prob Eure, France.
Child of Hugh de Cavalcamp was:

Ralph I de Toeni [b] b abt 925, of Tosni, Eure, France.
Child of Ralph I de Toeni was:

Ralph II de Toeni [c], Seigneur of Tosni and Conches, b abt 965, Tosni, Eure, France, d abt 1015. The identity of his wife is not known. Children of Ralph II de Toeni were:

• Ralph de Toeni, d young.
• Roger I de Toeni b abt 992. See LINE A
• (poss.) Robert de Toeni b abt 996. See LINE B

LINE A
Roger I de Toeni [d], Standard Bearer of Normandy, aka "de Conches", b abt 992, Conches, Normandy, d 31 May 1039. He md Godeheut abt 1022, daughter of Raymond III Borrel, Count of Barcelona, and Ermesende of Carcassonne. Children of Roger I de Toeni and Godeheut were:

• Sir Ralph III de Toeni b abt 1034.

• Adelize de Toeni b abt 1036. She md Sir William Fitz Osbern, Earl of Hereford, abt 1050, son of Osbern, Steward of Normandy, and Emma.

• Robert de Stafford, Baron Stafford, Sheriff of Staffordshire, b abt 1038.

Sir Ralph III de Toeni [e], Lord of Flamstead, aka "de Conches", b abt 1034, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England, d 24 Mar 1101/02. He md Isabel/Elizabeth de Montfort abt 1070, France, daughter of Simon I de Montfort, Seigneur of Montfort l'Amauri, and Isabel de Bardoul. Children of Ralph III de Toeni and Isabel/Elizabeth de Montfort were:

• Roger II de Toeni b abt 1074, d 15 May 1091.

• Ralph IV de Toeni b abt 1078.

• Godeheut de Toeni b abt 1082; md Baldwin I of Boulogne, King of Jerusalem.

Sir Ralph IV de Toeni [f], Lord of Flamstead, aka "de Conches", b abt 1078, Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England, d abt 1126. He md Alice of Northumberland 1103, daughter of Sir Waltheof II of Huntingdon, Earl of Huntingdon and Northampton, Count of Lens, and Judith of Lens. Children of Ralph de Toeni and Alice of Huntingdon were:

• Sir Roger III de Toeni b abt 1104.
• Robert de Toeni b abt 1108.
• Margaret de Toeni b abt 1112, Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England, d 1185. She md Sir Walter Fitz Richard de Clifford, Lord of Clifford, abt 1135, son of Richard Fitz Pons and Maud Fitz Walter.

Sir Roger III de Toeni [g], Lord of Flamstead, aka "de Conches", b abt 1104, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England, d 1157-62. He md Ida of Hainault abt 1130, daughter of Baldwin III, Count of Hainault, and Yolande of Guelders. Children of Roger III de Toeni and Ida/Gertrude of Hainault were:

• Ralph V de Toeni, Seigneur, b abt 1132.
• Godeheut de Toeni b abt 1140, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England, d bef 1186. She md William de Mohun abt 1155, son of Sir William de Mohun, Earl of Somerset, and Agnes de Gant.

Sir Ralph V de Toeni [h], Lord of Flamstead, aka "de Conches", b abt 1132, Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England, d 1162. He md Margaret de Beaumont aft 1155, Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England, daughter of Sir Robert de Beaumont, Knight, Earl of Leicester, Justiciar of England, and Amice de Montfort.
Children of Ralph V de Toeni and Margaret de Beaumont were:

• Ida de Toeni [i] b abt 1158, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England. She md Sir Roger Bigod, Earl of Norfolk, Magna Carta Surety, abt 1181, son of Sir Hugh Bigod, Earl of Norfolk, and Juliana de Vere. She was also previously a mistress of Henry II Curtmantle, King of England, son of Geoffrey V of Anjou, Count of Anjou, and Matilda of Germany.
• Sir Roger IV de Toeni b abt 1160.

Sir Roger IV de Toeni [j], Lord of Flamstead, Knight, aka "de Conches", b abt 1160, Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England, d 29 Dec 1208, Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England. He md Constance de Beaumont abt 1185, daughter of Richard I de Beaumont, Viscount of Maine, and Daughter de l'Aigle.
Child of Roger IV de Toeni and Constance de Beaumont was:

Sir Ralph VI de Toeni [k], Lord of Flamstead, b abt 1189/90, Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England, d abt 29 Sep 1239 (at sea). He md Petronilla de Lacy Nov 1234, daughter of Sir Walter de Lacy, Lord of Meath and Weobley, and Margaret/Margery de Braose. Children of Ralph de Toeni and Petronilla de Lacy were:

• Sir Roger V de Toeni, Lord of Flamstead, b abt 1235.
• Constance de Toeni b abt 1236, Radnor, Wales, d aft Feb 1266. She md Fulk Fitz Warin abt 1249, son of Fulk Fitz Warin and Maud le Vavasour.

Sir Roger V de Toeni [l], Lord of Flamstead, b Sep 1235, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England, d bef 12 May 1264. He md [1] Alice de Bohun bef 1255, daughter of Sir Humphrey V de Bohun, Earl of Hereford and Essex, and Maud d'Eu; and [2] Isabel aft 1255. Child of Roger de Toeni and Alice de Bohun was:
Sir Ralph VII de Toeni [m], Lord of Flamstead, b 1255, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England, d bef 29 Jul 1295, Gascony, France. He md Mary abt 1280. She was b abt 1258, prob Scotland.
Child of Ralph VII de Toeni and Mary was:
Alice de Toeni [n] b abt 1283, of Flamstead, Hertfordshire, England, d bef 8 Jan 1324/25. She md:
[1] Thomas de Leyburne,
[2] Sir Guy de Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick, Knight, 12 Feb 1309/10, son of Sir William de Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick, and Maud Fitz John, and
[3] Sir William la Zouche de Mortimer, Lord Zouche of Mortimer, bef 25 Feb 1316/17, son of Robert de Mortimer and Joyce la Zouche.

LINE B
(poss) Robert de Toeni b abt 996, prob Conches, Normandy.
• • Sir Robert de Toeni, Lord of Belvoir, b abt 1042. He md Adeliza abt 1062. She was b abt 1046.
Child of Robert de Toeni and Adeliza was:
Adelize/Alice de Toeni b abt 1066, d aft 1136. She md Roger Bigod abt 1082.
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NOTES:
This name is seen as de Conches, de Tony, de Toni, de Tosni, etc, but it's derivation is almost certainly from Tosni, in Eure, France. Several members held Conches, also in Eure, hence the nickname "de Conches".

a. Virtually nothing is known of Hugh de Cavalcamp except that he had two sons, Hugh, and Ralph (or Rodolf). Son Hugh was a monk at the abbey of St. Denis and in 942 he was made Archbishop of Rouen by William "Longsword", Duke of Normandy. From the estates of this Achbishopric, Hugh gave to his brother, Ralph, the domain of Tosni.

b. Described as "a most powerful man", he is often confused with his son of the same name, but the dates involved indicate there must have been two Ralphs, belonging to successive generations.

c. Born probably before 970, as in 1013-14, the Duke of Normandy, having founded the castle of Tillieres, gave custody of it to Ralph and his son Roger. Around 1015 he went to Apulia, and in the winter of 1015-16, he was at the seige of Salerno. While record of his wife's name has not survived, Orderic, in writing of Ralph's son, Roger, stated that he descended from an alleged uncle of Rolf/Rollo, founder of Normandy, so some believe it possible that Ralph's wife may have belonged to a ducal branch of that house. Ralph II de Toeni had at least two sons, Ralph and Roger, and may have also had a son, Robert de Toeni, who is known to have had a brother, Berenger "Spina", as well as a sister Bertha, who married Guy de Laval circa 1025. Some sources identify this Robert de Toeni as a predecessor of the later Robert de Toeni, Lord of Belvoir in 1086.

d. Styled also de Conches, he was a powerful man and banner-bearer of all Normandy. About 1035 he founded the abbey of Chatillon or Conches, and while Duke Robert was away on pilgrimage, he went to Spain where he distinguished himself fighting "the infidels". When he returned to Normandy and found that William had succeeded his father, Duke Robert, Roger was furious that a bastard ought not to rule over him and other Normans. And accordingly, Robert rebelled and ravaged the lands of his neighbors, particularly those of Humphrey de Vieielles, whose son, Roger de Beaumont then marched against him. In the battle that followed, Roger de Toeni and two of his sons, supposedly named Elbert and Elinant, were slain. He left at least three sons and a daughter, Ralph, who succeeded him, Robert de Stafford, Gazon, and Alice, who married William Fitz Osbern, Earl of Hereford.

e. Commonly styled de Conches, in about 1060, he, Hugh de Grandmesnil, and Ernald d'Echauffour, were deprived of their inheritances by the Duke, and then banished. In revenge, Ralph and Ernauld made raids into Normandy, burning the town of St. Evroul. But by 1063, they were recalled and their lands restored. He took part in the invasion of England and fought at the Battle of Hastings, and sometime between the battle and the Domesday survey of 1086, the Conqueror gave him estates in the counties of Berks, Essex, Gloucester, Hereford, Herts, Norfolk, and Worcester. After returning from pilgrimage to Spain in 1080, he made gifts to the abbey of St. Evroul in recompense for having burned the town. In 1088 he served under Duke Robert in the war against Maine. Shortly after, he was engaged in a personal war, his wife Isabel having angered her sister-in-law, Hawise (wife of Isabel's brother, William, Count of Evreux), by which Hawise induced her husband to attack Ralph. When Ralph was unable to obtain aid from Duke Robert, he sent envoys to William Rufus, who then ordered his adherents in Normandy to go to Ralph's aid. In Nov the Count of Evreux besieged Conches, but was defeated, and after three years of fighting peace was concluded. When Rufus and his brother made peace in 1091, the Duke granted to the King all lands of Gerard de Gournay and Ralph de Conches, after which Ralph remained one of the King's strongest supporters. After Rufus' death, Ralph and his prior rival, the Count of Evreux, invaded the Count of Meulan's barony of Beaumont in Aug 1100, in revenge for his having prejudiced the late King against them. Ralph was benefactor to the abbeys of St. Evroul, l'Estree, Conches, Croix-Saint-Leufroi, Lire, Jumieges, Bec, and St. Taurin. His wife Isabel, after a long widowhood, "repenting of the fatal wantonness to which she had been much addicted in her youth", took the veil.

Note:
U.S. President Zachary Taylor is a descendant.
Roger, called de Toeni or de Conches; accompanied Richard I on 3rdCrusade; hisremaining Norman fiefs captured from him by the King ofFrance by 1204; marriedConstance, daughter of Richard de Beaumont,Vicomte of Beaumont, and died c Jan
1208/9. [Burke's Peerage]
ROGER DE TOENI IV, styled also DE CONCHES, sonand heir, was only a littleboy at his father's death, and took no part in affairs until after theaccession of Richard I. On 25 November 1189 he was with the King atWestminster; on 6 December at Dover; and doubtless he crossed toCalaiswith Richard on 12 December. On 2 January 1189/90 at Verneuil Rogerde Toenyand Gilbert Crespin of Tillières in the King's presence made gifts to St. Evroul;and as they were about to leave for Jerusalem and had not their seals with them, the King at their request confirmed the agreement with his own seal. Roger with his brothers and kinsfolk called"de Cornebu" [sic, recte Tornebu] reached Acre about 8 June 1191. On 7 September 1191 he distinguished himself in Richard's victory at Arsuf.
He was with the King at Jaffa (Joppa) on 10 January 1191/2; and in June he fought in the battle when Richard captured the Saracen convoy at El-Khuweilfe. His subsequent movements are obscure, but on 6 January 1193/4 he was with the King at Speyer. At Michaelmas 1196 he owed 40 s.for his scutage for the King's ransom, 40 s. for the 2nd scutage for thearmy of Normandy and 40 s. for the 3rd scutage for the army of Normandy after the King's return from Germany. In June or July 1197 he was one of those who swore at Les Andelys on behalf of Richard to observe the treaty with the Count of Flanders. At Michaelmas 1198 he owed Ð272 in Normandy for the balance of the tallage on his land there for the King's ransom,as well as other sums. On 7 April 1199 (the day after Richard's death) he was at Le Vaudreuil with the Archbishop of Canterbury and other magnates.In the new reign he continued to enjoy royal favour and was faithful to John.
On 15 and 18 August 1199 at Les Andelys he was one of John's sureties who swore to observe his treaties with the Count of Boulogne and the Count of Flanders. On 22 September 1199 the King granted him at Le Mans the manor of Saham (Norf.), for 140 librates of land which he owed him for his homage when he (John) was Count of Mortain. In May 1200 he was one of the sureties who were named in the treaty with France and gave bonds to Philip. He then recovered his castle of Conches, which had been taken bythe King of France in September 1199. On 5 February 1202/3 at Rouen Johnremitted Ð200 which Roger owed for the balance of tallage on his land forKing Richard's ransom and Ð100 which Richard had lent him for fortifying his house at Tosni. In 1203 the King of France recaptured his castle of Tosni; and in 1204 Roger finally lost all hi sNorman lands, being one of those excluded by Philip from the terms of the pacification. In England he continued to attest royal charters until his death and to enjoy royal favour.
On 27 March 1204 the King at Windsor granted him land to the value of Ð76and 15 pence at St. Botulf and a fair; on 9 November 30 librates of landin Norfolk; and on 30 November 30 librates in Devon. On 7 December 1205Walter de Clifford was ordered to restore the castle of Boskeret toRoger. At Michaelmas 1208 he rendered account for 10 marks for thediversion of aroad which passed through the middle of the court of thecanons of Westacre. Together withWilliam, Earl of Salisbury, he became asurety for John de Mohun, later than Michaelmas 1208. He founded the little nunnery of St. Giles in the Wood, near Flamstead.
He married Constance, daughter of Richard DE BEAUMONT,SEIGNEUR OFBEAUMONT-LE-VICOMTE, FRESNAY AND STE-SUZANNE, hereditary vicomte of Maine(usually styled VICOMTE DE BEAUMONT). Constance, whose sisterErmengardmarried William the Lion, King of Scotland, brought her husbandin free marriage the manor of Ailrichescot (South Tawton) in De
Roger, called de Toeni or de Conches; accompanied Richard I on 3rdCrusade; his remaining Norman fiefs captured from him by the King ofFrance by 1204; married Constance, daughter of Richard de Beaumont,Vicomte of Beaumont, and died c Jan 1208/9. [Burke's Peerage]
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ROGER DE TOENI IV, styled also DE CONCHES, son and heir, was only alittle boy at his father's death, and took no part in affairs until afterthe accession of Richard I. On 25 November 1189 he was with the King atWestminster; on 6 December at Dover; and doubtless he crossed to Calaiswith Richard on 12 December. On 2 January 1189/90 at Verneuil Roger deToeny and Gilbert Crespin of Tillières in the King's presence made giftsto St. Evroul; and as they were about to leave for Jerusalem and had nottheir seals with them, the King at their request confirmed the agreementwith his own seal. Roger with his brothers and kinsfolk called "deCornebu" [sic, recte Tornebu] reached Acre about 8 June 1191. On 7September 1191 he distinguished himself in Richard's victory at Arsuf. Hewas with the King at Jaffa (Joppa) on 10 January 1191/2; and in June hefought in the battle when Richard captured the Saracen convoy atEl-Khuweilfe. His subsequent movements are obscure, but on 6 January1193/4 he was with the King at Speyer. At Michaelmas 1196 he owed 40 s.for his scutage for the King's ransom, 40 s. for the 2nd scutage for thearmy of Normandy and 40 s. for the 3rd scutage for the army of Normandyafter the King's return from Germany. In June or July 1197 he was one ofthose who swore at Les Andelys on behalf of Richard to observe the treatywith the Count of Flanders. At Michaelmas 1198 he owed Ð272 in Normandyfor the balance of the tallage on his land there for the King's ransom,as well as other sums. On 7 April 1199 (the day after Richard's death) he was at Le Vaudreuil with the Archbishop of Canterbury and other magnates.In the new reign he continued to enjoy royal favour and was faithful to John. On 15 and 18 August 1199 at Les Andelys he was one of John'ssureties who swore to observe his treaties with the Count of Boulogne and the Count of Flanders. On 22 September 1199 the King granted him at LeMans the manor of Saham (Norf.), for 140 librates of land which he owed him for his homage when he (John) was Count of Mortain. In May 1200 he was one of the sureties who were named in the treaty with France and gave bonds to Philip. He then recovered his castle of Conches, which had been taken by the King of France in September 1199. On 5 February 1202/3 at Rouen John remitted Ð200 which Roger owed for the balance of tallage on his land for King Richard's ransom and Ð100 which Richard had lent him for fortifying his house at Tosni. In 1203 the King of France recaptured his castle of Tosni; and in 1204 Roger finally lost all his Norman lands,being one of those excluded by Philip from the terms of the pacification.In England he continued to attest royal charters until his death and toenjoy royal favour. On 27 March 1204 the King at Windsor granted him landto the value of Ð76 and 15 pence at St. Botulf and a fair; on 9 November30 librates of land in Norfolk; and on 30 November 30 librates in Devon.On 7 December 1205 Walter de Clifford was ordered to restore the castle of Boskeret to Roger. At Michaelmas 1208 he rendered account for 10 marks for the diversion of a road which passed through the middle of the court of the canons of Westacre. Together with William, Earl of Salisbury, he became a surety for John de Mohun, later than Michaelmas 1208. He founded the little nunnery of St. Giles in the Wood, near Flamstead.
He married Constance, daughter of Richard DE BEAUMONT, SEIGNEUR OF BEAUMONT-LE-VICOMTE, FRESNAY AND STE-SUZANNE, hereditary vicomte of Maine(usually styled VICOMTE DE BEAUMONT). Constance, whose sister Ermengard married William the Lion, King of Scotland, brought her husband in free marriage the manor of Ailrichescot (South Tawton) in Devon, which Henry I had given in free marriage with her grandmother, his illegitimate daughter Constance, to Roscelin de Beaumont, styled Vicomte de Beaumont.She seems to have possessed considerable influence and to have enjoyed favour with John; but the King of France confiscated her Norman lands.Roger was living, 29 December 1208, but died shortly afterwards, probably in January 1208/9. His widow had Stratfield restored to her after his death. She was living in 1226 across the seas. [Complete PeerageXII/1:765-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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Sources

[S64] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical Index.
MRS. ROBERT TONI; Female; Birth: About 1114; Spouse: ROBERT TONI; Marriage: About 1139 Eggington,Derbyshire, , , England; No source information is available.
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church.
Search performed using PAF Insight on 22 Sep 2004
[S64] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical Index.
Ralph De Conches De Toeni; Male; Death: 1162; Spouse: Margaret De Beaumont; Marriage: After 1155 Of, Leicester, Leicester, England; No source information is available.
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church.
Search performed using PAF Insight on 29 Sep 2004