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Name |
LEUCHARS, Orabella de |
Prefix |
Countess |
Birth |
1133 |
Leuchars, Fife, Scotland |
Gender |
Female |
Death |
1181 |
Long Buckby, Northamptonshire, England |
WAC |
20 Dec 1934 |
SLAKE |
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Reviewed on FS |
Headstones |
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Person ID |
I32603 |
Joseph Smith Sr and Lucy Mack Smith |
Last Modified |
19 Aug 2021 |
Father |
FITZWILLIAM, Count Ness Helias , b. 1100, Leuchars, Fife, Scotland Leuchars, Fife, Scotlandd. 1140, Leuchars, Fife, Scotland (Age 40 years) |
Family ID |
F18559 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Family |
QUINCY, Knight Robert de , b. 1127, Long Buckby, Northamptonshire, England Long Buckby, Northamptonshire, Englandd. 29 Sep 1198, Northamptonshire, England (Age 71 years) |
Marriage |
1153 |
Brackley, Northamptonshire, England |
Divorce |
Yes, date unknown |
Children |
2 sons and 1 daughter |
+ | 1. QUINCY, Earl Saher IV , b. 1155, Winchester, Hampshire, England Winchester, Hampshire, Englandd. 3 Nov 1219, Damietta, Palestine (Age 64 years) | | 2. QUINCY, Orabella De , b. 1157, Brackley, Northamptonshire, England Brackley, Northamptonshire, England | | 3. QUINCY, Simon de , b. 1159, Brackley, Northamptonshire, England Brackley, Northamptonshire, England | |
Family ID |
F18549 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Last Modified |
24 Jan 2022 |
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from http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/SCOTTISH%20NOBILITY.htm#RobertUmfrevilleAngusdied1325B
ORABILIS (-before 30 Jun 1203).
"Nesius filius Willi et Orabile filia sua heres" donated "ecclesiam de Losresc" to St Andrew´s priory by undated charter[358].
Her first marriage is confirmed by the undated charter under which her son "Seherus de Quency comes Wintonie" donated "totam terram de Duglyn", held by "Nesus filius Willelmi avus meus" to Cambuskenneth priory[359].
Her second marriage is indicated by the undated charter under which "Orabilis comitissa de Mar filia Nesii filii Willi" confirmed the donation of "ecclesiam de Lochres" made by "pater meus Nesius filius Willi" to St Andrew´s priory, witnessed by "Duncano comite de Fif…"[360].
Her third marriage is indicated by the undated charter under which "Nesius filius Willelmi" donated "ecclesiam de Lochres" to St Andrew´s priory witnessed by "Dunecano comite de Fif…Adam filio Dunec et Horabili sponsa sua…"[361].
There seems little doubt that the witness was Orabilis, daughter of the donor, and her third husband, as the name is so unusual.
"Orabilis filia et heres Dñi Nesii" donated property to St Andrew´s priory by undated charter witnessed by "…Patricio filio Nesii, Dunc filio Elin…"[362]. "Orabilis filia et heres Dñi Nesii" donated "Davach ictar Hathyn" to St Andrew´s priory by undated charter witnessed by "…G. com de Mar…Patricio filio Nesii, Duncan filio Emelin…"[363].
Pope Innocent III confirmed the possessions of Inchaffray Abbey, including the donation of land "in territorio de Gasgt" by "quondam Orable matris Seer de Quinci", by bull dated 30 Jun 1203[364]. Orabilis presumably died before her first husband, given the undated charter under which her son "Seerus de Quinci" confirmed the donation of "Davac Icthar Hathyn" made by "matris mea" to St Andrew´s priory which was witnessed by "…Roberto de Quincy patre meo…"[365].
m firstly ([1160/70], separated) as his first wife, ROBERT de Quincy, son of SAHER de Quincy & his wife Maud de Senlis ([1140]-after 1200).
m secondly --- Earl of Mar, son of ---. The Complete Peerage says that "it has been asserted" that Orabilis´s second husband was Gilchrist Earl of Mar, but adds that "the chronology is difficult"[366]. The chronology in fact appears impossible: Earl Gilchrist is recorded up to 1199, whereas Orabilis is named with her [third] husband in a charter of her father which, although undated, is probably not dated much later than 1177.
It seems more likely that Orabilis´s second husband was Morgund Earl of Mar (-[1177/30 Mar 1183]), which if correct means that she was his second wife.
An alternative possibility is that Orabilis´s second and third husbands were in fact reversed, which is the assumption of Balfour Paul[367].
m thirdly ADAM of Fife, son of DUNCAN Macduff Earl of Fife & his wife ---.
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- [S72] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (TM), (June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998).
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