WARENNE, Countess Isabella de

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Isabella married ENGLAND, Count Guillaume in 1153. Guillaume (son of BLOIS, King Stephen and ENGLAND, Queen Mathilde) was born about 1139 in Blois, Jura, Franche-Comté, France; died on 11 Oct 1160 in Toulouse, Haute-Garonne, France; was buried on 21 Oct 1160 in Montmorillon, Vienne, France, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Isabella married PLANTAGENET, Earl Hamelin in Apr 1164 in Surrey, England. Hamelin (son of PLANTAGENET, Count Geoffrey V and BEAUCLERC, Empress Mathilda) was born in Jun 1130 in Rue de Vermandoes, Cherbourg-Ocgeville, Basse, France; died on 7 May 1202 in Lewes, Sussex, England; was buried in May 1202 in Chapter House, Lewes, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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1. PLANTAGENET, Countess Ida Isabell was born about 1154 in Norfolk, England; died in DECEASED.
2. WARENNE, Geoffrey de was born about 1160 in Norfolk, England; died in 1239 in England.
3. WARENNE, Adela was born in 1162 in Surrey, England; died on 19 Oct 1216 in England; was buried in Oct 1216.
4. WARENNE, Maud de was born in 1163 in Surrey, England; died about 1212.
5. WARREN, Earl William de was born on 2 Sep 1160 in Surrey, England; was christened in 1240 in Lewes, Sussex, England; died on 27 May 1240 in Lewes, Sussex, England; was buried in Jun 1240 in Lewes, Sussex, England.
6. PLANTAGENET, Countess Margaret was born in 1172 in Surrey, England; died about 1220.

Isabella married AUBIGNE, Earl Hugh de in 1234 in , Surrey, England. Hugh (son of D'AUBIGNY, Earl William IV and MESCHINES, Countess Mabel de) was born about 1215 in Arundel Castle, Sussex, England; died on 7 May 1243 in Wymondham, Norfolk, England; was buried in May 1243 in Wymondham, Norfolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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--Other Fields Ref Number: 2658 --Other Fields Ref Number: 7708 GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as William de BIRTH: Also shown as Born Surrey, England. ~BAPTISM: Also shown as Baptized 22 Feb 1994, SLAKE. ~ENDOWMENT: Also shown as Endowed 29 Jul 1994, SLAKE. SURNAME: Also shown as Warenne GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as William De BIRTH: Also shown as Born Abt 1110 DEATH: Also shown as Died Laodicea, Holy Land. ~SEALING_PARENTS: Also shown as SealPar 23 Aug 1994, SLAKE.

William married TALVAS, Countess Ela Adelia de in 1135 in Surrey, England. Ela (daughter of TALVACE, Count William III and BOURGOGNE, Hélène-Alix de) was born on 2 Apr 1120 in Alençon, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France; was christened in 1120 in Alencon, Bell, France; died on 4 Dec 1174 in Bradenstoke, Wiltshire, England; was buried on 4 Dec 1174 in Chapter House, Lewes, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Ela was the daughter of William Talvas, Comte de Ponthieu, Comte d'Alencon and Alice of Burgundy. Married William de Warenne, III, the 3rd Earl of Surrey, the son of William de Ware II and Elizabeth Vermandois. Married a second time to Patrick Evereaux FitzWalter, the Earl of Salisbury and son of Walter FitzEdward and Sybilla de Chaworth. Per Findagrave.com

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--Other Fields Ref Number: 2621 --Other Fields Ref Number: 787 --Other Fields Ref Number: 2645 William, Earl of Warren and Surrey, second earl ofSurrey (d. 1138), frequently described as earl of Warrene; elder son of William de Warrenne (d. 1088); took part in the defence of Courcy against Duke Robert, 1091; unsuccessful suitor, c. 1094, for Matilada, afterwards consort of Henry I; joined Duke Robert when he invaded England, 1101; withdrew to Normandy; pardoned by Henry II, 1103; fought in Normandy, 1106, 1119, 1135; attended Stephen's Court 1136. SURNAME: Also shown as Warenne BIRTH: Also shown as Born , Sussex, England. BURIAL: Also shown as Buried Priory of Lewes, Surrey, England. SURNAME: Also shown as Warenne BIRTH: Also shown as Born , Sussex, England.

William married VERMANDOIS, Countess Isabell de Crepi in 1109 in Vermandois, Neustrasia, France. Isabell (daughter of CREPI, Count Hugh de and VERMANDOIS, Countess Adele de) was born in 1064 in Vermandois, Neustrasia, France; died on 17 Feb 1131 in France; was buried in Feb 1131 in Lewes, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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--Other Fields Ref Number: 5563 --Other Fields Ref Number: 1057 James Abrah Garfield, President of the United States was descended from William de Warren and wife Isabel de Vermandois. GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Isabel De James Abrah Garfield, President of the United States was descended from William de Warren and wife Isabel de Vermandois. DEATH: Also shown as Died 13 Feb 1131 GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Isabel De DEATH: Also shown as Died 13 Feb 1131 ~SEALING_PARENTS: Also shown as SealPar 2 Oct 1992, PROVO.

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His father was arrested by Henry I and imprisoned for life.[5] William was naturally driven by this to oppose King Henry. In June of 1119, however, Henry I restored all his father's lands in Normandy. Sometime prior to 1126, William resigned the county of Ponthieu to his son Guy but retained the title of count.[3] In 1135 Henry I again confiscated all his Norman lands to which William responded by joining count Geoffrey of Anjou in his invasion of Normandy after Henry I's death[3] The Gesta Normannorum Ducum says that they had five children, three sons and two daughters. Europäische Stammtafeln, however, shows eleven.[2] Per Wikipedia.org--WILLIAM III, COUNT OF PONTIEU.

Son of Robert of Bellême and Agnes of Ponthieu, William III, also known Talvas, had, since 1105, succeeded his mother the County of Ponthieu. His father took him to the lordship and retained the enjoy

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GUILLAUME [I] "Talvas" de Ponthieu, son of ROBERT de Montgommery "de Bellême" Sire d'Alençon, Comte de Ponthieu, Earl of Shrewsbury & his wife Agnès de Ponthieu (-30 Jun 1171). His parentage is given by Orderic Vitalis[870]. He succeeded his father [4 Mar 1106/1110][871] as Comte de Ponthieu. "Wilelmus comes Pontivi" confirmed the donation of the church of Saint-Léonard de Bellême to Marmoutier by charter dated to [1112/14][872]. Henry I King of England restored Comte Guillaume to his father's lands in Normandy in Jun 1119[873]. He resigned Ponthieu in [1126] in favour of his son Guy. "Gulielmus comes Pontivorum" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Sauveur-le-Vicomte for the souls of "his predecessors earl Roger and Mabel his wife, count Guy and Adda his wife, his father Robert de Belesmo and his mother Agnes and…Ela his wife and of their sons two of them called Robert and two William and two Enguerrand and Mabel his daughter" by charter dated 1127[874]. Robert of Torigny records that Henry II King of England granted "castrum Alenceium et Rocam Mabiriæ" to "Willermus Talavacius comes Sagiensis et filius eius Johannes et iterum Johannes nepos eius filius Guidonis primogeniti sui comitis Pontivi" in 1166[875]. Robert of Torigny records the death in 1171 of "Guillermus Talavercius comes Pontivi" and the succession of "Johannes nepos suus…ex Guidone primogenito suo"[876]. The Obituaire of Saint-Martin de Séez records the death 30 Jun of "Guillelmus Pontivorum comes"[877]. The necrology of the monastery of Ouche records the death "30 Jun" of "Willelmus comes Talevat"[878].

[m firstly ---. The name of Guillaume´s supposed first wife is not known. This first marriage is strongly suggested by the marriage date of Guillaume´s daughter Clémence. She is named in Jul 1128 with her son "Gaufrido primogenito" (see below). The addition of the word "primogenito" suggests that there was at least one other younger child at that date. This would place her marriage in late 1125 at the very latest. It is extremely unlikely, therefore, that she could have born from Guillaume´s marriage to Hélie de Bourgogne, the death of whose first husband is recorded in late Apr 1112. The other indication is the unlikelihood that Hélie de Bourgogne could have had eleven children by her second husband, considering her own estimated birth date.]

m [secondly] ([late 1112/1115]) as her second husband, HELIE de Bourgogne, widow of BERTRAND de Toulouse Count of Tripoli, daughter of EUDES I Duke of Burgundy [Capet] & his wife Sibylle de Bourgogne [Comté] ([1080]-28 Feb 1141). She is named by Orderic Vitalis, who also records her parentage, her two marriages and the names of her eldest sons by each marriage[879]. "Gulielmus comes Pontivorum" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Sauveur-le-Vicomte for the souls of "…Ela his wife…" by charter dated 1127[880]. "Guido comes Pontivi" donated property to Cîteaux with the consent of "pater eius Willelmus comes…et mater eius Hela" by charter dated 18 Dec 1139[881]. "Wido comes Pontivii" confirmed freedoms over his lands, with the consent of "patris mei Willermi et domine Ele matris mee, fratris mei Johannis et uxoris mee Ide et filii mei Johannis" by undated charter[882].

Comte Guillaume [I] & his [first] wife had [two] children:

1. CLEMENCE de Ponthieu (-30 Nov before 1189). Guillaume de Jumièges records that an unnamed daughter of Guillaume Talvas married "Joel fils de Gauthier de Mayenne"[883]. "Juhello principe Meduane et uxore eius Clementia et filio eorum Gaufrido primogenito" subscribed a charter dated 12 and 26 Jul 1128, under which property was restored to the abbey of Mont-Saint-Michel[884]. m (before [1126]) JUHEL Sire de Mayenne, son of GAUTHIER Seigneur de Mayenne & his wife Aline --- (-23 Dec 1161, bur Evroux).

2. MABILE de Ponthieu . "Gulielmus comes Pontivorum" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Sauveur-le-Vicomte for the souls of "Ela his wife and of their sons two of them called Robert and two William and two Enguerrand and Mabel his daughter" by charter dated 1127[885]. If this translation is accurate, the wording suggests that Mabile was not the daughter of Guillaume´s known wife Hélie.

3. PHILIPPA de Ponthieu (-before 1149, bur Abbaye de Saint-Martin de Sées). The primary source which confirms her parentage has not yet been identified. It is suggested that she may have been born from her father´s supposed first marriage only to reduce the number of children attributed to his wife Hélie, whose age suggests that she could not have been the mother of ten children.

Comte Guillaume [I] & his wife had nine children:

4. GUY [II] de Ponthieu (-Ephesus [25 Dec] 1147). His parentage is recorded by Orderic Vitalis[886]. He succeeded before 1129 as Comte de Ponthieu.

5. GUILLAUME de Ponthieu (-after 1166). "Gulielmus comes Pontivorum" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Sauveur-le-Vicomte for the souls of "Ela his wife and of their sons two of them called Robert and two William and two Enguerrand and Mabel his daughter" by charter dated 1127[887]. Comte d'Alençon 1166.

6. ROBERT de Ponthieu . "Gulielmus comes Pontivorum" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Sauveur-le-Vicomte for the souls of "Ela his wife and of their sons two of them called Robert and two William and two Enguerrand and Mabel his daughter" by charter dated 1127[888]. 1127.

7. ROBERT de Garennes (-1171 or after). "Gulielmus comes Pontivorum" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Sauveur-le-Vicomte for the souls of "Ela his wife and of their sons two of them called Robert and two William and two Enguerrand and Mabel his daughter" by charter dated 1127[889]. Monk before 1147.

8. GUILLAUME de Ponthieu . "Gulielmus comes Pontivorum" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Sauveur-le-Vicomte for the souls of "Ela his wife and of their sons two of them called Robert and two William and two Enguerrand and Mabel his daughter" by charter dated 1127[890].

9. ENGUERRAND de Ponthieu . "Gulielmus comes Pontivorum" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Sauveur-le-Vicomte for the souls of "Ela his wife and of their sons two of them called Robert and two William and two Enguerrand and Mabel his daughter" by charter dated 1127[891].

10. ENGUERRAND de Ponthieu . "Gulielmus comes Pontivorum" donated property to the abbey of Saint-Sauveur-le-Vicomte for the souls of "Ela his wife and of their sons two of them called Robert and two William and two Enguerrand and Mabel his daughter" by charter dated 1127[892].

11. JEAN de Ponthieu (-1191). "Wido comes Pontivii" confirmed freedoms over his lands, with the consent of "patris mei Willermi et domine Ele matris mee, fratris mei Johannis et uxoris mee Ide et filii mei Johannis" by undated charter[893]. He succeeded in 1141 as Comte d'Alençon. Robert of Torigny records that Henry II King of England granted "castrum Alenceium et Rocam Mabiriæ" to "Willermus Talavacius comes Sagiensis et filius eius Johannes et iterum Johannes nepos eius filius Guidonis primogeniti sui comitis Pontivi" in 1166[894]. Robert of Torigny records the death in 1171 of "Guillermus Talavercius comes Pontivi" and the succession of "Johannes comes filius eius" in the lands which he held from the English king "in Normannia et in Cenomannensi pago"[895].

12. ELA de Ponthieu (-10 Oct 1174). Guillaume de Jumièges records that an unnamed daughter of Guillaume Talvas married "Guillaume de Warenne comte de Surrey"[896]. The primary source which confirms her name has not yet been identified but, if it is correct, it suggests that she must have been born from Guillaume´s marriage to Hélie de Bourgogne. Her second marriage is confirmed by Robert of Torigny who refers to the wife of "comes Patricius" as "filia Guillermi comitis Pontivi, matre comitisse de Warenna"[897]. m firstly WILLIAM de Warenne Earl of Surrey, son of WILLIAM de Warenne Earl of Surrey & his wife Elisabeth de Vermandois [Capet] ([1119]-killed in battle Laodicea 19 Jan 1148). m secondly (1152 or before) as his second wife, PATRICK Earl of Salisbury, son of WALTER FitzEdward de Salisbury & his wife Maud de Chaources [Chaworth] (-killed in battle Poitou [7 Apr] 1168, bur Poitiers, Abbaye de Saint-Hilaire).

William married BOURGOGNE, Hélène-Alix de in 1115. Hélène-Alix (daughter of BOULOGNE, Duke Hugues L'aveugle de I and BOULOGNE, Sibyl de) was born in Nov 1080 in Bourgogne-Franche-Comté, France; died on 28 Feb 1141 in Alençon, Orne, Lower Normandy, France; was buried on 14 Mar 1141 in Abbey of Perseigne, Sarthe, Maine, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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--Other Fields Ref Number: 7707 SURNAME: Also shown as Alice

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--Other Fields Ref Number: 1100 William Earl of Warren's father in one report was Nicholas de Bauchaville and his grandfather was Nicholas de Bauchaville and his great grandfather's name was Balderic Teutonicus and his great great grandfather's name was Wigorus and his 3rd great great grandfather's name was Charles D. of Lorraine and Charles D. of Lorraine's. Film Genalogical Society of Utah on film only. - Gundrada was the daughter of Queen Matilda, and that William the Conqueror was either her father or her step-father. .. I have ventured to maintain that she was not Queen Matilda's daughter by King William or any other husband, and whilst I am fully alive to the risk of differing from those who can justly claim to speak with greater authority, I submit to your better judgment whether the evidence, which I have discovered, will admit any other conclusion. Until the materials of history are more accessibly to students, luck will always form a large element in such discoveries, and I reckon it to my good fortune that I hit upon St. Anselm's letter, which gave me the clue to the solution of the problem...Edmond Chester Waters. Of Domesday, First Earl of Surry. Gundrada de Warren d. 1085, wife of William de Warrenne, first Earl of Surrey, and Co -founder with himof Lewes Priory, 1077; her tombstone placed in St. John's Church, Southover, Lewes, at end of 18th Century. William Earl of Warren's father in one report was Nicholas de Bauchaville and his grandfather was Nicholas de Bauchaville and his great grandfather's name was Balderic Teutonicus and his great great grandfather's name was Wigorus and his 3rd great great grandfather's name was Charles D. of Lorraine and Charles D. of Lorraine's. Film Genalogical Society of Utah on film only. - Gundrada was the daughter of Queen Matilda, and that William the Conqueror was either her father or her step-father. .. I have ventured to maintain that she was not Queen Matilda's daughter by King William or any other husband, and whilst I am fully alive to the risk of differing from those who can justly claim to speak with greater authority, I submit to your better judgment whether the evidence, which I have discovered, will admit any other conclusion. Until the materials of history are more accessibly to students, luck will always form a large element in such discoveries, and I reckon it to my good fortune that I hit upon St. Anselm's letter, which gave me the clue to the solution of the problem...Edmond Chester Waters. Of Domesday, First Earl of Surry. Gundrada de Warren d. 1085, wife of William de Warrenne, first Earl of Surrey, and Co-founder with himof Lewes Priory, 1077; her tombstone placed in St. John's Church, Southover, Lewes, at end of 18th Century. Ref: http://www.antonymaitland.com/pakham02.htm Will, Earl of Warren and Surrey 1st Earl of Surrey d. 1088, fought as knight at the Battle of Mortemer, 1054; married Gundrada of Flanders; granted Mortemer Castle by Duke William; fought at Hastings, 1066; received great grants of lands and built castles at Lews in Sussex, Reigate in Surrey, and Castle Acre in Norfolk; granted Conosborough, Yorks, 1069; fought against the refugees in Ely, 1071; joint chief justiciar, 1075; helped to suppress the rebellion of the earls of Hereford and Norfolk; founded the Cluniac priories of St Pancras, Lewes, 1077, and of Castle Acre; fought in Main, 1085; remained faithful to Rufus, 1088; granted the earldom of Surrey, c. 1088 fatally wounded at siege of Pevensey Castle. Married: Gundred, dau of William the Conqueror BIRTH: Also shown as Born Bellencombe, Seine Inferieure, France. BURIAL: Also shown as Buried Lewes, Sussex, England. BIRTH: Also shown as Born Bellencombe, Seine Inferieure, France.

William married ENGLAND, Countess Gundred in 1077 in Normandy, France. Gundred (daughter of ENGLAND, William I and FLANDERS, Dutchess Mathilda) was born in 1063 in Normandy, France; died on 27 May 1085 in Acre, Norfolk, England; was buried in Jun 1085 in Lewes, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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--Other Fields Ref Number: 1140 The marriage of Duke William, and the circumstances in which it took place, were sensibly to affect the position of the duke in his duchy, and indeed the place he was to occupy in the political structure of western Europe. And no event in his career has given rise to more controversial discussion. Much speculation has, for instance, taken place as to the ecclesiastical objections to the match, and the nature of the consanguinity (if such existed) between William and Matilda. At one time it was held that when William sought her hand, Matilda was already the wife of a certain Gerbod, by whom she had a daughter, Gundrada, who later became the wife of William of Warenne, the first Earl of Surrey. This, however, has not been finally disproved, and it is in the highest degree improbably that Matilda was married to anyone before the Conqueror. Some other explanation has therefore to be sought for the ecclesiastical ban on the marriage. It has thus been suggested that both William and Matilda were cousins in the fifth degree, being both directly descended from Rolf the Viking. GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Gundrada The marriage of Duke William, and the circumstances in which it took place, were sensibly to affect the position of the duke in his duchy, and indeed the place he was to occupy in the political structure of western Europe. And no event in his career has given rise to more controversial discussion. Much speculation has, for instance, taken place as to the ecclesiastical objections to the match, and the nature of the consanguinity (if such existed) between William and Matilda. At one time it was held that when William sought her hand, Matilda was already the wife of a certain Gerbod, by whom she had a daughter, Gundrada, who later became the wife of William of Warenne, the first Earl of Surrey. This, however, has not been finally disproved, and it is in the highest degree improbably that Matilda was married to anyone before the Conqueror. Some other explanation has therefore to be sought for the ecclesiastical ban on the marriage. It has thus been suggested that both William and Matilda were cousins in the fifth degree, being both directly descended from Rolf the Viking. BIRTH: Also shown as Born , Normandy, France. DEATH: Also shown as Died Acre Castle, Norfolk, England. BURIAL: Also shown as Buried Lewes Priory, Sussex, England. GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Alice GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Gundrada BIRTH: Also shown as Born , Normandy, France. DEATH: Also shown as Died Acre Castle, Norfolk, England.

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--Other Fields Ref Number: 1105 --Other Fields Ref Number: 5564 GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Hugh Chart prepared for the New York State Genealogical Board by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints fo the Centennial Exhibition, March 1936. Pomeroy Family Chart - Hugh, the Great Magnus, Count of Vermandois, 1101, daughter Isabella md. Robert De Mellent and their daughter Mable De Mellent md. Wm. De Vernon, and their dau. Margery De Vernon md. Henry De La Pomeria (His great grandmother was Rohesia, daughter of Henry I, King of England, youngest son of Wm. the Conquerer, who is the last Royal ancster of the Pomeroy Family in England.) Descendants of the Normandy Nobleman "Radulus" who was born at St. Seuveur, de La Pommeraie, was one of the first companions of William the Conqueror to take the surname of Ralph de Pomerei; (a common name in Normandy). He was Chief of Staff (referred to in Pomeroy Genealogy Book pg 24, 1912) and companion during the Battle of Hastings, 1066. His reward was 58 Lordships or manors in County of Devon, 2 in Somerset, and 2 in Cornwall, besides 16 entered upon. Listed in Doomsday book (Pages 25 to 31 P.G.) honors of Berry Pomeroy, also map of Dart River pg 32 P.G. Hugh the Great, Duke of France and Burgundy, Marquis of Orleans, Count of Amiens, Chaumont, Paris, Valois, Vermandois, etc., Leader of the First Crusade, son of Henry I, King of France and Anne, dau. of Yaroslav I, Grand Prince of Kiev. Hugh the Great Magnus, Count of Vermandois, 1101, dau. Isabella m. Robert De Mellent. Their daughter Mable De Mellent m. Henry De La Pomeria, his great grandmother was Rohesia, dau of Henry I, King of England (youngest son of Wm. the Conquerer, who is the last Royal ancestor of the Pomerey Family in England. DEATH: Also shown as Died Tarsus, Cillicie, France. GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Hugh BIRTH: Also shown as Born Abt 1052 DEATH: Also shown as Died Tarsus, Cilicie. BURIAL: Also shown as Buried St Paul De Tarse, Tarsus, Sicily, Sicily.

Hugh married VERMANDOIS, Countess Adele de in 1064 in France. Adele (daughter of VERMANDOIS, Count Herbert IV and VEXIN, Countess Adela de) was born in 1061 in Valois, Bretagne, France; died on 23 Sep 1120 in Vermandois, Neustrasia, France; was buried in Sep 1120. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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--Other Fields Ref Number: 1353 --Other Fields Ref Number: 5565 GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Adelaide DEATH: Also shown as Died 23 Sep 1124 GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Adelaide BIRTH: Also shown as Born Abt 1051

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Chamberlain - Baron to Wm the Conqueror (Steward or Desenser.
Spencer (also Spence, Spender, Spens, and Spenser) is a surname. The origin can be traced directly to Robert d'Abbetot[2][3][4] who is listed as Robert le Dispenser, a tenant-in-chief of several counties, in the Domesday Book of 1086. Robert was possibly one of the Norman knights who fought alongside (or accompanied) William the Conqueror in the defeat of Harold II, King of England at the Battle of Hastings in 1066. There is little doubt that both Robert and his brother Urse came to England at about the time of the Battle of Hastings. They were both beneficiaries of William over the years, and were given titles and substantial land and property—suggesting repayment for some earlier deeds. It is likely that Robert's first acknowledgment was his official appointment as Royal "Dispencier" sometimes expressed more grandly as "Royal Steward", "King's Steward" or "Lord Steward". As dispenser of provisions to the King and his household Robert was known and recorded as Robert le Despencer or, in its Latinised form, Robertus Dispensator.[5] There is also the possibility that Robert held this official position before arriving in England.[6]

Robert's adopted surname was usually written as Despenser or Dispenser—notably in works such as the Domesday Book of 1086 and the Scottish Ragman Rolls of 1291 & 1296. From 1066 until the 13th century the occupational name attributed to Robert d'Abbetot existed with numerous spelling and other variations. Eventually both the "le" and "de" that frequently preceded the name were omitted. In 1392 the popular "s" in the centre of the name was discarded and replaced with the "c" seen in the present-day form—Spencer.[7]
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"Robert the Devil," notorious for his alleged cruelty. Robert inherited his mother's vast estates. Duke William took the added precaution of garrisoning the Bellême castles with his own soldiers. Both future King Henry I and Robert were seized as they disembarked and, both placed in the Bishop's custody, were imprisoned as the Bishop Odo claimed they were plotting a takeover. The inhabitants of Domfront invited the duke's younger brother, Henry, to take possession of Domfront.[22] They had grown weary of Robert's oppressive and abusive style of lordship.[22] He was one of the great magnates who joined Robert Curthose's 1101 invasion of England. Lost his English lands and titles and was banished from England. In 1112, the French King sent Robert to negotiate the release of Robert Curthose, whereas Henry seized Robert and imprisoned him. [39] Robert spent the rest of his life as a prisoner; the exact date of his death is not known.[42] Per Wikipedia.org--ROBERT OF BELLEME, 3RD EARL OF SHREWBURY.

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Hugues married BOULOGNE, Sibyl de after 1070. Sibyl (daughter of BOULOGNE, Count Guillaume de I and BARCELONA, Stephanie Etiennette) was born in 1059 in France; died on 23 Mar 1102; was buried in Mar 1102. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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