QUINCY, Knight Robert de^[1]

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• Name	QUINCY, Robert de
  Prefix	Knight
  Birth	1127	Long Buckby, Northamptonshire, England
  Gender	Male
  Burial	Oct 1197
  Death	29 Sep 1198	Northamptonshire, England
  WAC	6 Dec 1933
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  Person ID	I32602	Joseph Smith Sr and Lucy Mack Smith
  Last Modified	19 Aug 2021

  
  

  Father	QUINCY, Saher de I ,   b. 1100, Daventry, Northamptonshire, England Daventry, Northamptonshire, Englandd. 1158 (Age 58 years)
  Mother	ST LIZ, Maud ,   b. 1096, Tunbridge, Kent, England Tunbridge, Kent, Englandd. 1140 (Age 44 years)
  Marriage	Abt 1125	England
  Family ID	F18497	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family 1	LEUCHARS, Countess Orabella de ,   b. 1133, Leuchars, Fife, Scotland Leuchars, Fife, Scotlandd. 1181, Long Buckby, Northamptonshire, England (Age 48 years)
  Marriage	1153	Brackley, Northamptonshire, England
  Divorce	Yes, date unknown
  Children	2 sons and 1 daughter
  + 1. QUINCY, Earl Saher IV ,   b. 1155, Winchester, Hampshire, England Winchester, Hampshire, Englandd. 3 Nov 1219, Damietta, Palestine (Age 64 years)   2. QUINCY, Orabella De ,   b. 1157, Brackley, Northamptonshire, England Brackley, Northamptonshire, England   3. QUINCY, Simon de ,   b. 1159, Brackley, Northamptonshire, England Brackley, Northamptonshire, England
  Family ID	F18549	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	24 Jan 2022

  
  

  Family 2	QUINCY, Eva de ,   b. Abt 1130, England England
  Marriage	1169	Northamptonshire, England
  Family ID	F18558	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	24 Jan 2022

  
  

• Notes

  . Recent research by Dr. Sidney Painter and The Complete Peerage has shown that the de Quincy family was established in Cuinchy, France, near Bethune on the border of Artois and Flanders, before coming to England. Their family name of Quincy (also written Quency and Quincey) is believed to be derived from their above early home in France. Biography Robert's older brother, Saher II, inherited the English estates from SAHER I. Robert started appearing in Scottish records around 1165. His career was doubtless advanced by his second cousins Malcolm and WILLIAM THE LION (RIN 1913), successively kings of Scotland, and it was certainly KING WILLIAM who granted to him the site of the old castle of Forfar and a toft in Haddington. While his brother Saher II was serving HENRY II as a justice in Normandy, Robert was acting as Justiciar of Scotland, an office which he held from 1171 to 1178. Royal favour may also have brought about his marriage, at a date unknown, to a notable heiress, ORABILE, daughter of NESS son of WILLIAM. Her father, a prominent but ill-documented figure, was apparently a first-generation Norman-Scot. ORABILE was heir to her father's lands, to the exclusion of his sons Constantine and Patrick, and thus brought to Robert estates at Gask and Deuglie, in Perthshire, at Leuchars, Lathrisk, Beath and elsewhere in Fife, and at Tranent, in Lothian. This fortunate marriage helped to raise Robert in a short time to a level of importance in Scotland greater than the relatively minor position which his brother Saher II held in English society. Twelfth-century Scotland was a land of opportunity and a vigorous younger son such as Robert de Quincy could make there a name which might become known well beyond the bounds of the small northern kingdom. In 1190 Robert joined King Richard I on the Third Crusade, was constable of a force to take aid to Antioch in 1191 and in the same year was sent with HUGH III, DUKE OF BURGUNDY (RIN 3796) to Tyre to collect prisoners from PHILIP AUGUSTUS, KING OF FRANCE (RIN 3163). On his return from the crusade, Robert took part in Richard I's campaigns in Normandy in 1194 and 1196. On the death of his nephew Saher III, before 1192, Robert succeeded to the English estates of the family's main line and added these to his Scottish possession s. By the time of his death, which took place before Michaelmas, 1197, he had proved himself as a knight of wide experience and had established his position as an Anglo-Scottish baron of some prominence. The marriage of Robert and OR ABILE was apparently ended by a separation. She later married Gilchrist, earl of Mar, while Robert married a lady named Eve, who may possibly have been of t he family of the lords of Galloway. The matrimonial complexities of this situation have caused a controversy which need not be entered upon here. Became a "Soldier of the Cross." [The Roll of Battle Abbey] First of the de Quincys to settle in Scotland. Was a Northamptonshire gentleman who attached himself to William the Lion, or his predecessor. Married Arabella, daughter of Nes, by whom on her father's death, he obtained Leuchers in Fife, and Duglyn among the Ochils. Died about 1190. Appears as a witness in some of the charters of Malcolm IV. [The Bruces and the Cumyns, p. 519] Lord of Buckley and of Fawside; Crusader; m. Orabella, dau. of Ness; father of Saher de Quincy, b. 1155; d. c. 1198. [Ancestral Roots, p. 58]

  
  

• Sources

  [S72] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (TM), (June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998).