ST JOHAN, Lord John de

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• Name	ST JOHAN, John de
  Prefix	Lord
  Birth	Oct 1273	Basingstoke, Hampshire, England
  Gender	Male
  Burial	May 1329
  Death	14 May 1329	Basing, Hampshire, England
  WAC	1 Jan 1933
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  Father	ST JOHAN, Lord John de ,   b. 9 Mar 1225, Basing, Hampshire, England Basing, Hampshire, Englandd. 29 Sep 1302, Caerlaverock, Dumfrieshire, Scotland (Age 77 years)
  Mother	FITZ-PIERS, Alice ,   b. 1234, Blaen Llyfni, Brecknockshire, Wales Blaen Llyfni, Brecknockshire, Walesd. 29 Sep 1302, Basing, Hampshire, England (Age 68 years)
  Marriage	Jun 1256
  Family ID	F23790	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family 1	COURTENAY, Baroness Isabell de ,   b. Abt 1283, Okehampton, Devonshire, England Okehampton, Devonshire, Englandd. 10 May 1325, Basing, Hampshire, England (Age 42 years)
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  Family 2	Alice
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  Family 3	HATMAKER ,   b. 1302, England England
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  Ref: Lady of Batersay pg 317 Appendix C.--The St. John Family and Window. 3--Genealogical Tables. Table I.--St. John of Basing, St. John of Bletshoe and St. John of Lydiard Tregoz. Lord of Basing, Somerset and Glamorgan, ob 1319. ---------------------------------- 18th Great Grandfather - John De St. John, Lord of Basing Ref: Our Lady of Batersey, The Story of Battersea Church and Parish Told from Original Sources. by John George Taylor, B.A. British 942.21 B5 K2ta George White, 396, King's Road, Chelsea MDCCCCXXV FHL SLC Forward- Since the appearance of Manning and Bray's monumental History of Surrey, in 1814, the churches and villages of the southern Thames bank have suffered undeserved neglect. Even in that valuable work, as well as in the Victoria County History of a later date, these ancient parishes figure but as units in the County Hundreds and few of them have yet received adequate individual treatment. Among those which are of sufficient general, historical and antiquarian interest to demand such treatment, Battersea unquestionably has claims which rank very high. Its situation, on a bend of the river at the edge of the marsh, gave the original fishing settlement some importance in very early times and a church was standing on the present site when the Normans landed at Hastings. Battersea Manor--which included some parts of modern Wandsworth--and its Rectory were valuable possessions of the Abbey of Westminster from the Conqueror's day until the Dissolution; and, in this connection, the Abbey Muniments have here been largely drawn upon from the first time. They contain much interesting fresh material relating to early local Topography and to the work of the Westminster craftsmen on Battersea's mediaeval church. The passing of both Manor and Rectory from the Crown to Sir Oliver St. John, First Viscount Grandison and ex-Lord Deputy of Ireland (ob. 1630), marks the opening of Battersea's Golden age; and the Eastern window of its present church--an intricate and unique pedigree in heraldic painted glass, never hitherto fully interpreted, dates from this period. Preserved at the re-building in 1775, it records the descent and the many interesting matrimonial alliances of Grandison's nephew and heir, Sir John St. John, First Baronet, and of his immediate family connections. Battersea was closely associated with six generations of the ancient and honourable family of St. John. In its Church, which yet preserves their memorials in glass, stone and marble by the greatest artists of their times, they were baptized, married and buried. To its Manor-house, the last remaining wing of which is in course of demolition as I write, came King Charles II to visit Sir Walter, the third baronet--uncle of the dissolute courtier-poet John Wilmot, Earl of Rochester and second cousin of the notorious Lady Castlemaine--who gave Battersea its educational foundation. At Battersea, under the guardianship of Sir Walter and his wife, grew up their famous grandson, Henry St. John, afterwards Viscount Bolingbroke. To Battersea Manor-house Bolingbroke returned in his old age and in Battersea Church he was buried. The Church Registers contain the names of Edward Hyde, afterwards Earl of Clarendon, whose first marriage at Battersea, connected him with the St. John Lords of the Manor; of Edmund Burke, the Statesman and of Arthur Collins of "Peerage" fame; of William Blake, John Venn and of Arthur Collins of "Peerage" fame; of William Blake, John Venn and William Wilberforce. Among its Vicars were the famous Simon Patrick, afterwards Bishop of Ely; the Hon. Robert Eden, afterwards Lord Auckland and Bishop of Bath and Wells, to whose efforts the conversion of Battersea Fields into the present Battersea Park was very largely due; and, more recently, John Erskine Clarke--church-builder, educationist and philanthropist. In its riverside grave-yard, lie William Curtis, the first eminent English botanist and the family of Robert Story the Northumbrian poet. It has been well said that, in earlier days, "the parish church was the centre of popular life all the country over, and the priest and other parachial officials were the recognised managers of many interests beyond those of a strictly eccesiastical nature. (Cardinal Gasquet, Parish Life in Mediaval England, p. 1.) The spoliation of the churches by the State in the name of Reform checked the flow of individual benevolence from which their enrichment had been mainly derived; and the rapid increase of Puritanism under Elizabeth led to such a slackening of zeal that compulsory church-rating was adopted and, where necessary, enforced. At the same time, increased powers were gradually imposed on the Parish Meeting and the general custom of an Easter Vestry arose out of the Elizabethan Poor-law legislation. As the work of the Parish increased, an annual meeting proved insufficient and, by the middle of the eighteenth century, some six or eight were held in the course of a twelve-month. Those present included Viscar (as a rule), the Wardens, Overseers, Constables, two Headboroughs and, from 1761, a Vestry Clerk--whose functions were general--as well as the Parish Clerk, who continued to attend to the more specifically Church business. Thus, even a century ago, local administration continued largely to be centred around the Parish Church where these meetings were held; most of the available information as to the history of the parish in its relations to national and intrnational affairs, as well as to the details of its intrnal life and ancient local customs and institutions, is to be found in the Accounts of the Churchwardens and Overseers, the Ventry Minutes, the Church Registers and the Brief Book. I therefore offer no apology for thus linking together the Story of Battersea Church and Parish in one volume. The chief original sources from which my material is derived are the Westminster Abbey Muniments--especially the Register Books, the Doomsday Chartulary and the Infirmirer's Rolls-which throw much new light on early Battersea Topography and, together with the Pre-Reformation Battersea Wills which have been exhaustively scrutinized, tell all that is known about the fabric of its mediaeval church; the Churchwardens' Accounts, of which a transcript of the Elizabethan sections is given as an appendix--they are complete from 1559 to 1667 and from 1710 onwrds; the early Overseers' Books and Vestry Minutes; the Minutes and Accounts of the Trustees for Rebuilding the Church in 1774 and following years, which are most interesting reading and furnish full details of the ways and means adopted for church building in an age when religious fervour had languished, as well as of the many links between the present and the earlier building; an unpublished collection of letters by Sir Walter St. John (RIN 96963), his wife Lady Johanna (RIN 96964) , and Viscount Bolingbroke kindly placed at my disposal by Mrs. Henry St. John; The Winchester Episcopal Registers and a large number of British Museum, Record Office and Local manuscripts to which reference will be found in the foot-notes. (Indebtedness is also thankfully acknowledged to ... (many others.) (continued pg 44-47 FROM 1300 to the REFORMATION)...The sales already made by Rowland Jackson and Richard Browne are duly noted, as is the fact that "there remayneth dewe unto the Churchewardens for money layd out by them more then they receyved as by the Churche booke of the reconinges may and doth appere ... The Goods and Ornaments mentioned in the Inventory were sold and realised the following sums: (Probably the Cope given by Henry Rydon in 1531 which cost 6 pounds 18s. 4d.) "A cope of crimson velvet..." lll Also rem in their charge to the Kinges use foure belles in the steple and a saunce bell." It is at least some small satisfaction to note that the property sold for the benefit of the church by the Wardens of 1549-50 had realised a considerably larger sum than the residue seized by the Commissioners in 1553; while a further gleam of comfort is provided by the possibility that certain things were at that time safely concealed by the Churchwardens as the following interesting items occur in their accounts a few later--... Apart from the story of the Church, together with such details of early topography and the value of crops and rents, and such indications of a fishing and agricultural community as have been already quoted from the Abbey records, very little information as to mediaeval Battersea is now available. It appears to have been of some note as a Surrey river port, the Essex Archaeological Society's Transactions (N.S. Vol. I), in an article on the re-building of Hadleigh Castle (1365-6) recording that 38 cartloads of "Reygate" stone were bought at ijs. a cartload including "carriage to Baterseye," and also that 8 cartloads of stone of the quarry of "Reygate" were put "in a ship at Batrseye" for xviijd. The names of its most distinguished townsmen--usually "yeomen, but occasionally "citizens of London"-- are sometimes to be found in their wills, (Vide supra.) while the roll of its Vicars is practically complete. (Vide Appendix G., pp. 397, 398) It is, however, perhaps worthy of note that two Battersea men are mentioned by name in connection with the stirring events of the Peasants' Revolt under Wat Tyler, in 1381, when it was William Sevars and William Pontene of Battersea who seized and burned the custumal and title-deed concerning the Royal Manor of Kennington. (...Kenington Palace was a favourite residence of King Richard II., vide Besant, South London, pp. 81-8. Edward III. had given the Manor to the Black Prince since which time, as part of the Duchy of Corwall, it has always belonged to the Prince of Wales.) On the dissolution of the Abbey of Westminster, in 1540, the Manor of Battersea was retained by the Crown and annexed to the Honour of Hampton Court by Act of Parliament. (Vid Cal. State Papers Dom., Henry VIII., SV, 498 (36). Act. of Parl. 32 Hy. VIII.) Subsequently it formed part of the jointure of James the First's Queen, Anne of Denmark; and, after her death (in March 1618 o.s.) it was granted to Charles, Prince of Wales. (Ibid) But, so far as actual conditions in Battersea were concerned, these changes of ownership had made but little difference. Henry Rydon (RIN 62681 our 12th Great Grandfather), who died in 1531, had bequeathed to his elder son Robert "the leas" which he held "of my Lorde Abbott priour & Convent of Westmynster of the Manor or Lordsshipp of Battersey." (V.C.H., Brixton Hundred, p. II.) Robert appears to have died prematurely in 1538, leaving only a daughter, Elizabeth; but he gave and bequeathed to his younger "brother Henry Rydon all the interest and termes of yeres which be yete for to come of and in the Mannor of Batterychesey." (Robert Rydon's Will, C. W., Crumwell, f. II) The Suppression of the Monastery speedily followed, (On Jan. 16th, 1540. Vide Westlake, Westminster Abbey, Ch. XII, p. 204) but Henry Rydon--or Roydon, as the name was then beginning to be spelt--appears to have had no difficulty in securing a new lease from the Crown.(This renewal to Henry Rydon (junr.) was made 10th March, 1541. Vide Cal. State Papers Dom., and also Henry's Will, C. W.., Babington, f. 22.) Henry Roydon filled the office of Church-warden from 1564-66 (B.C.A., 1564-66) during which period the considerable sum of 10 pounds 9s. 9d. was spent on the re-casting and rehanging of "ye greyte bele & ye smayle bele" ((Ibid, 1564, ff. 5b and 6a, ((vide Appendix E, p. 344)) in the church steeple. Dying in 1568, like his brother he left no son behind him; but his will, (C. W., Babington, f. 22) which is dated two previously, provided first for the reversion of his "leases of the Mannors, Lordeshippes and fermes of Batterichesey and Bridge courte and the woods of the common of Penge" to his widow Elizabeth; on her death or re-marriage they are to pass to his daugher Johan. In 1568, Joan Rydon married Thomas (Vide Register of Marriages, Book I, 6th Dec. 1568. Holcrofte's Christian name Thomas should be noted. He was never knighted. Their son was Sir Henry, their grandson Sir Joh . and B., Vol. III, G.E.C., the D.N.B., Mr. Vicary Gibbs and the V.C.H. all wrongly give Joan Roydon as having married Sir William Holcrofte.) Holcrofte, a gentleman in the seervice of Sir William Cecil (Lord Burleigh). On four occasions, at least, Holcrofte served as Churchwarden and it is not surprising to note that during his tenure of the office, in 1572, "Mr. Ramesonne the Lord Burghlay his Chapplin preached at Battersay." (Vide note, dated April 1572, at the end of the earliest Battersea Register. Another preacher recorded was Dean Goodman, who also had been Chaplain to Lord Burghley.) In 1856, he paid (probably on behalf of the Wardens) for the repair of the pulpit (B.C.A., f. 34b vide Appendix E, p. 374) and, dying in 1591, was buried at Battersea. (Vide Register of Burials, Book I, 27th May, 1591.) On September 4th, 1592, (P.R.O., Patent Rolls, 34 Eliz. pars. 15.) the Queen granted a new lease to Elizabeth Rydon and to Johanna Holcrofte, widows of the "Maner de Batrichsey in Com. Surr." which had been so long farmed by "Henry Rydon deceased and his ancestors." Elizabeth Roydon died the following year (Vide Register of Burials, Book I, 30 July, 1593) (1593) and apparently about the same time, Joan Holcrofte took as her second husband Oliver St. John, Esq.--afterwards Sir Oliver, Lord Deputy of Ireland, Viscount Grandison and Baron Tregoze (The marriage of Oliver St. John and Joan Holcroft does not appear in the Battersea Register. The inscription, dated 1592, on the monument to his father, Nicholas St. John in the church of Lydiard Tregoze, Wilts, states that Oliver was then unmarried But, as his name appears in the Lay Subsidy Assessment for the County of Surrey, 1593-4, when "Olyver St. John Esquier is taxed for lands assessed on xxli. and charged ivli." and moreover in his brother John's will, June, 1594 he is referred to as "of Battersey," and as he signed the C. W.s' accounts at Battersea at the audit on Palm Sunday 1595, the marriage may probably be safely placed in 1593-1594, shortly after the death of Henry Roydon's widow Elizabeth, 30 July 1593. The D.N.B. traces his residence in Battersea back to 1600; but he was here at least six years earlier. For further particulars of Oliver St. John see Chapter IX.) This event marks the beginning of Battersea's long connection with the ancient and honourable family of St. John--a connection which was to last for upwards of one hundred and seventy-five years. In 1610-1611, a new reversionary lease of the Manor was granted to Aaron Best, St. John's Controller (Vide Grandison's Will, C. W., St. John, f. I "To Joseph Carrill my Chaplyn and to Aron Best my Controller Twentie pounds a peece" (Codicil), but, in 1625, the whole estate was transferred to Sir Oliver by the Prince of Wales' trustees (V.C.H., Brixton Hundred p. II.) and the sale received royal confirmation under a patent of 1627. (M. and B. Vol. III) As to the living, Queen Mary granted the Advowson to John White, Bishop of Winchester, (M. and B., Vol. III) a few days before her death in 1558, so that he gained nothing by the transaction By Elizabeth, the Rectory and Advowso were granted in 1581, to Edward Downing and Peter Ashton (P.R.O., Land Rev. Misc. Bks, 198, 2 Jas. I., Oliver St. John holds the following:-- 'The glebe land of ye Rectorye there w'h he hath in ffee farme and demised by him by here at ... The Tythes of the same Rectory wherein he hath like estate and demised by him by yere at ... The Vicar's Tithes wch Sr. Olyver fermeth of the vicar and demeseth by yere at ... One tenement holden of the Archbishop of York demised by yere at ...) who presented twice (P.R.O., Lib. Inst., A. 5., f. 86, "Antony Martin 8 May,160. " "Wm. Prichard, 10 April, 1622) and whose family held them for practically the whole of the remaining period of the history of the old church which is dealt with in the following chapters. (End pg 47 From the Reformation) ------------------------