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MUNCHENSY, Lord William II

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  • Name MUNCHENSY, William 
    Prefix Lord 
    Suffix II 
    Birth Abt 1185  Gooderstone, Norfolk, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Burial Apr 1208 
    Death 6 Apr 1208  Gooderstone, Norfolk, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    WAC 10 Apr 1996  CHICA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    _TAG Reviewed on FS 
    Person ID I51827  Joseph Smith Sr and Lucy Mack Smith
    Last Modified 19 Aug 2021 

    Father MONCHENSY, Sir William I,   b. Abt 1152, Gooderstone, Norfolk, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 7 May 1204, Winfarthing, Norfolk, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 52 years) 
    Mother CLARE, Eveline de,   b. 1160, Tunbridge, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 4 Jun 1225, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 65 years) 
    Marriage 1181  Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [1] 
    Notes 
    • MARRIAGE: Also shown as Married , Gooderstone, Norfolk, England.
    Family ID F15771  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family MARSHALL, Joane,   b. Abt 1201, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this locationd. Abt 1233 (Age ~ 32 years) 
    Marriage Abt 1228 
    Last Modified 24 Jan 2022 
    Family ID F25829  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • From Medieval Lands:

      WARIN [II] de Munchensy, son of WILLIAM de Munchensy & his wife Aveline de Clare (-[20 Jul 1255]). "Guarinus de Munchainesy" paid a fine for "hereditarie" with "W. com Arundell avunculus ipsius Warini" acting as guarantor, dated 23 Dec 1213[1708]. William Earl of Arundel was the son of the second husband of Warin’s maternal grandmother. "…Warinus de Muntchenesi…" witnessed a document dated 25 Aug 1223[1709]. Bracton records a claim, dated 1224, by "Warinus de Monte Canisio" against "Walterum de Godarduilla" requesting "feodum…in Wicham" which had been held by "Willelmo de Monte Canisio fratre eiusdem Warini cuius heres ipse est dum fuit infra etatem"[1710]. Bracton records a claim, dated 1224, by "Prior de Suwere" against "Warinum de Monte Canisio" for "ecclesiam de Suanescamp…advocacionem" which "comitissa Cecilia avia sua" [Cecilia Countess of Hereford, Warin’s great-aunt not his grandmother] granted to "Jacobum le Sauuage"[1711]. Bracton records a claim in 1232 made by “Warinus de Monte Canisio” against “Adam de Kailly et Mabiliam uxorem eius...Isabellam de Friuilla...Matillidem Giffard” for land “in Luddeduna” inherited from “Cecilia [...comitissa] antecess sua...quia obiit sine herede de se descendit...Agneti...sorori et heredi et quia ipse Willelmus obiit sine herede...de se descendit...isti Warino...fratri et heredi suo”, and that the defendants replied that “Cecilia comitissa” had given the land, which “Willelmus de Pictavia...virum suum” held for one knight’s fee, to “Ricardo Giffard patri predictarum Mabilie et Isabelle...Osbertus filius Ricardi” and that “mortuo predicto Willelmo” Cecilia had married “Walterum de Meinne”[1712]. "Warin de Montechanes and Denise his wife" were granted rights "in the demesne lands of Rodewell" dated 21 Oct 1242[1713].

      m firstly JOAN Marshal, daughter of WILLIAM Marshal Earl of Pembroke & his wife Isabel de Clare Ctss of Pembroke. The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire, names (in order) ”Matilda…Johanna…Isabella” as the daughters of “Willielmi Marescalli comitis Penbrochiæ”[1714]. The same source records in a later passage that "secunda filia…Willihelmi Marescalli…Johanna" married "Warino de Montecaniso" by whom she was mother of "Johannem de Montecaniso" who died childless and "Johannam sororem eius" who married "domino Willihelmo de Valentia"[1715].

      m secondly ([Nov 1234/Jun 1235]) as her second husband, DENISE de Anesty, widow of WALTER Langton of Langton, Lincolnshire and Ridgewell, Essex, daughter of NICHOLAS de Anesty of Ansty and Little Hormead, Hertfordshire & his wife --- (-1304, bur London Grey Friars Church). An order dated 15 Jun 1235 records a claim brought by "Warinum de Munchanes et Dionisiam uxorem eius" against "magistrum Simonem de Langet archidiaconum Cantuarie" to enforce payment of “dote ipsius Dionisie”[1716]. "Warin de Montechanes and Denise his wife" were granted rights "in the demesne lands of Rodewell" dated 21 Oct 1242[1717]. She married thirdly (before 29 Sep 1260) [Robert/Richard] Butyller.

      Warin [II] & his first wife had two children:

      1. JOHN de Munchensy (-[Jun] 1247). The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire names "Johannem de Montecaniso" as the son of "Warino de Montecaniso" and his wife, adding that he died childless[1718].

      2. JOAN de Munchensy (-1307 before 20 Sep). The Chronicle of Tintern Abbey, Monmouthshire names "Johannam" as the daughter of "Warino de Montecaniso" and his wife, adding that she married "domino Willihelmo de Valentia"[1719]. Matthew of Paris names her and her father when he records her marriage[1720]. A charter dated 13 Aug 1247 ordered "William de Valence the king’s brother and Joan his wife to have seisin of the lands which belonged to John de Muntchesny of the inheritance of Walter Marshall late Earl of Pembroke, and which after John’s death ought to descend to Joan as his sister and heir"[1721]. m (before 13 Aug 1247) GUILLAUME de Lusignan "de Valence", son of HUGUES [XI] "le Brun" de Lusignan Comte de la Marche et d'Angoulême & his wife Isabelle Ctss d'Angoulême ([Cistercian Abbey of Valence, near Lusignan] after 1225[1722]-in England [1294/18 May 1296], bur Westminster Abbey). He styled himself Lord of Pembroke, he was never invested with the earldom of Pembroke[1723].

      Warin [II] & his second wife had one child:

      3. WILLIAM de Munchensy (-Drylswyn Castle, near Carmarthen before 16 Sep 1287, bur Dereham). m AMICE, daughter of ---. William & his wife had one child:

      a) DENISE de Munchensy (before 22 Jul 1283-before 13 Apr 1314). m firstly JOHN de Hull of Hill Croome, Worcestershire, son of ---. m secondly (after 12 Jun 1294) HUGH de Vere, son of ROBERT de Vere Earl of Oxford & his wife Alice de Sanford ([Jun 1258/Mar1259]-after 22 May 1319). He was summoned to parliament 6 Feb 1298, whereby he is held to have become Lord Vere.

      [Source: Medieval Lands, "Warin [II] de Muchensy", downloaded 8 August 2018, dvmansur, see link in Sources.]

  • Sources 
    1. [S64] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical Index.
      Eveline De Clare; Female; Birth: 1160; Spouse: William Monchensy; Marriage: About 1181 , Kent, England; No source information is available.
      Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church.
      Search performed using PAF Insight on 29 Sep 2004



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