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  • Name TALVAS, Mabel 
    Prefix Countess 
    Birth 1026  Alencon, Bell, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Female 
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    Death 2 Dec 1079  Bures, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Burial 5 Dec 1082  Eure, Haute-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
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    Father TALVAS, Lord William ,   b. 1000, Bellême, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this locationBellême, Orne, Basse-Normandie, Franced. Apr 1048, Alençon, Orne, Basse-Normandie, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 48 years) 
    Mother BEAUMONT, Bildeburge de ,   b. 985, Le Mans, Sarthe, Maine, Pays-de-La-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this locationLe Mans, Sarthe, Maine, Pays-de-La-Loire, Franced. Abt 1067, Alençon, Orne, Lower Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 82 years) 
    Family ID F32569  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Father ALENCON, Guillaume ,   b. Abt 990, Alencon, Bell, France Find all individuals with events at this locationAlencon, Bell, Franced. 1048 (Age 58 years) 
    Mother BEAUMONT, Bildeburge de ,   b. 985, Le Mans, Sarthe, Maine, Pays-de-La-Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this locationLe Mans, Sarthe, Maine, Pays-de-La-Loire, Franced. Abt 1067, Alençon, Orne, Lower Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 82 years) 
    Marriage Bef 1015 
    Family ID F32587  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family MONTGOMERY, Earl Roger de ,   b. 1022, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this locationShrewsbury, Shropshire, Englandd. 27 Jul 1094, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 72 years) 
    Marriage 1048  Perche, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Notes 
    • ~SEALING_SPOUSE: Also shown as SealSp 6 May 1970, LANGE. MARRIAGE: Also shown as Married Abt 1038
    Children 5 sons and 5 daughters 
    Family ID F32500  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 24 Jan 2022 

  • Notes 
    • --Other Fields Ref Number: 2830 --Other Fields Ref Number: 5988 BIRTH: Also shown as Born , Alencon, Bell or Orne, France. DEATH: Also shown as Died Bures Castle, France. BURIAL: Also shown as Buried Abbaye, Troarn, France. SURNAME: Also shown as Alencon AFN: Merged with a record that used the AFN 8JF1-JL DEATH: Also shown as Died 1082

      Murdered by Hugh Bunel. The historian Orderic, who arrived at St.Evroul some five years after Mabel's death, describes Mabel as apoisoner and a 'monster of iniquity'. However, Cokayne indicates thatOrderic's interpretation of Mabel should be 'received with greatreserve.' (see Complete Peerage, XI:687, note a) According to Orderic (as reported in Transactions of the RoyalHistorical Society, XX:87): "She carried on the feud with the house ofGere, and with Roger [her husband] induced the duke to confiscate thelands of Arnold d'Echauffour, son of the unfortunate William mutilatedby her father; after which she obtained a large part of his estates.In 1063, however, Arnold secured a promise of restitution from theduke; whereupon Mabel plotted to have him poisoned at the castle ofEchauffour, then in her husband's hands. Being warned by a friend, herefused to drink; but Roger's youngest and only surviving brother,Gilbert de Montgomery, drank from the poisoned goblet and died. Soonafterwards the implacable lady bribed Arnold's chamberlain to make afresh and successful attempt....For nearly ten years more the countesscontinued her career of successful wickedness, in the course of which,says Orderic, she caused many nobles to be disinherited and to beg inforeign lands. One of her victims was Hugh de la Roche d'Ige, whomshe deprived of his castle. Driven to desperation, Hugh enlisted theaid of his three brothers; and on the night of 2 December 1079, whenMabel was at Bures on the Dive, they made their way into the castle.The countess was lying in bed after a bath when Hugh burst into herchamber and cut off her head with his sword."

  • Sources 
    1. [S985] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Ancestral File (TM), (June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998).

    2. [S984] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical Index.
      Mabel de Alencon; Female; Birth: About 1015 Alencon,Bell, , , France; Death: 1082; Father: William de Alencon; Mother: Bildeburge de Beaumont; No source information is available.
      Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church.
      Search performed using PAF Insight on 30 Sep 2004

    3. [S984] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical Index.
      ROGER DE MONTGOMERY; Male; Birth: About 1005 , Normandie Province, France; Death: 1123; Father: ROGER DE MONTGOMERY; Spouse: MABEL DE ALENCON; Marriage: 1048 Of Alecon,Bell, , , France; No source information is available.
      Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church.
      Search performed using PAF Insight on 30 Sep 2004